09-16-2015, 06:31 PM
Does anyone known where to find info on the Model Numbers that Holton used ex: 230, 232, 566, 666, etc. and how to correctly identify model number with model type? Was the 232 a Revelation or a Stratodyne. What was the Model 566 and 666 were they both Collegiate model types ?
Model Types, Years and Serial Numbers:
Holton - Chicago Years:1915-1918 Serials: 1-2000
Holton - Elkhorn Years:1918-1925 Serials: 1201-18499
Holton - Rudy Weidoeft Years:1925-1932 Serials: 20000-40250
Holton - Revelation Years:1925-1980 Serials: 18500-558935
Holton - Collegiate Years: 1932-1979 Serials: 111100-558935
Holton - Stratodyne Years:1948-1958 Serials: 182000-307399
source:http://www.saxophone.org/museum/saxophones/manufacturer/54
Does anyone have a list like the above list for model numbers, years, etc. ?
Model Types, Years and Serial Numbers:
Holton - Chicago Years:1915-1918 Serials: 1-2000
Holton - Elkhorn Years:1918-1925 Serials: 1201-18499
Holton - Rudy Weidoeft Years:1925-1932 Serials: 20000-40250
Holton - Revelation Years:1925-1980 Serials: 18500-558935
Holton - Collegiate Years: 1932-1979 Serials: 111100-558935
Holton - Stratodyne Years:1948-1958 Serials: 182000-307399
source:http://www.saxophone.org/museum/saxophones/manufacturer/54
Does anyone have a list like the above list for model numbers, years, etc. ?
For serial numbers for models 27, 40 and 45, see the Noblet 27 page. More serial number information is found on the Noblet N page. Subpages (6): Noblet 27 Noblet 4 Noblet 40 Noblet 45 Noblet Laureate Noblet N. 86 rows Serial Numbers – Holton. There are numerous serial numbers lists for Holton instruments on.
study888 wrote: |
Hello Robert Rowe. You mentioned the Holton Super Collegiate was another story. Would you please for us that are not in the know. Tell us about the Super Collegiate and how they play. Quality of model etc. By not knowing. May have passed over one in a old pawn shop est. Could have bought for $20.00. Did buy a L.A. Ambassador trumpet ser#27668. for $20.00 while I was looking. Thanks for any info. you have to offer. |
Well ... not sure where to begin ... (?)
I might comment that I have no extreme loyalties to any one brand of horn. I have a 'fondness' for a very special 1956 Conn Connstellation 28A, and a 1939 Martin Handcraft Committee. These two horns offer me the opportunity to play in almost any context I encounter, with great aplomb.
I'm not a fanatical 'jazz-Bo', a classical / symphonic 'kinda-guy', nor a studio / recording / commercial artist.
Seems as though everyone elevates most horns to some lofty status, if it qualifies as a fine jazz horn. You know -- 'plays dark and smoky' -- that kind of description.
From time-to-time, we address the issue of which horns qualify as 'poor man's Committees' ... or 'pretenders to the Throne'.
I have several Committees. I like them. I use them for applications other than strickly jazz.
Apparently, I carry some 'creedence' around here (this Forum) .... OK -- I've 'paid my dues'. I've had the fine and rare privelege to have owned most horns we all discuss here. I examine each horn and evaluate it ... on many levels, and try to 'qualify it' as to what I believe its strong points are ... and mention its short-comings.
OK -- enough. Just establishing my bona fides.
The Holton Super-Collegiate is one of those rare horns that approximate
some of those qualities we find in the Martin Committee. The examples I've played were of very fine build-quality. Not sure exactly when the production 'peaked', as far as quality control ... might have been early-to-mid 1960s (?). Most likely, the earlier (1940s - 1950s) examples were best (?). I am not an 'expert' on these horns, so don't 'nail me' with serial-numbers, production variations, and such.
They strike me as quite a bargain in today's market. Also, I am not sure how well they 'hold up' in the long-run. I suppose they did very well in their intended market (as per their appellation). Younger players may not always implement proper care and maintenance. Other 'priorities' abound. Horns like Ambassadors offer great testimony in their legendary ability to 'survive' all sorts of abuse and neglect. I suspect the tolerance built-in with these sort of horns allowed for more 'ballpark' set-ups. I would love to 'blue-print' a Holton Super-Collegiate -- do a super valve-alignment, gap regulation, etc.
I suppose the 'bottom-line' is really up to the owner / player. Will the horn satisfy its intended requirement?
The Super-Collegiate probably will deliver lotsa satisfaction.
Yf fthfl Srvnt,
Robt
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